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Charles Shaw, Jr. & Sophie Wall

June 25, 2020 By Catherine Sevenau 2 Comments

FAMILY LINE AND HISTORY

Charles Elliott “Elliott” Shaw, Jr.
Only child of Charles Elliott Shaw, Sr. & Ora Lovina Chatfield
Born: Oct 13, 1899, Spring Creek, Big Horn Co., Wyoming
Died: Feb 22, 1973 (age 73), Montebello, Los Angeles Co., California; cause?
Buried: Forest Lawn Memorial Park, Glendale, Los Angeles Co., California
Military: WWI
Occupation: Wyoming pool hall owner, concrete foreman, Los Angeles U.S. postman/letter carrier
Married (1): Dec 7, 1919, Gladys Forbes Simonds, Basin, Big Horn Co., Wyoming
Divorced: by 1923, where
No children?
Married (2): date 1925, Sophia May “Sophie” Wall, where
One child: Charles Elliott “Mike” Shaw, III

(m.1) Gladys Forbes Simonds  (PHOTO?)
Daughter of George Francis Simonds & Mary A. Forbes
Born: Feb 18, 1902, Cleveland, Cuyahoga Co., Ohio
Died: May 16, 1948 (age 46), Los Angeles Co., California; cause?
Buried: where?
Married (1): Dec 7, 1919, Charles Elliott “Elliott” Shaw, Jr., Basin, Big Horn Co., Wyoming
Divorced: by 1923, where
Married (2): Jun 28, 1923, Leland Guy Teeters, Billings, Yellowstone Co., Montana
One child: Leland John “Jack” Teeters (1925-1989)
Married (3): Dec 24, 1942, Glen Russell Lefferd, where, California

(m.2) Sophia May “Sophie” Wall
2nd of 5 children of Langdon Wall & Clara Suela/Luella “Carrie” Nash
Born: May 6, 1884, Webster, Monroe Co., New York
Died: Aug 12, 1969 (age 85), Los Angeles, Los Angeles Co., California; cause?
Buried: Forest Lawn Memorial Park, Glendale, Los Angeles Co., California
Married (1): Jan 1, 1912, Edward Emille Haar, Richmond Co., Virginia
Two children: Edward Langdon Haar, Elizabeth Sophie Haar
Married (2): 1925, Charles “Elliott” Shaw, Jr.
One child: Charles Elliott “Mike” Shaw, III

1. Charles Elliott “Mike” Shaw, III (PHOTOS?)
Only child of Charles Elliott “Elliott” Shaw, Jr. & Sophia May “Sophie” Wall
Born: Feb 20, 1926, Gardena, Los Angeles Co., California
Died: Nov 23, 1982 (age 56), Covina, Los Angeles Co., California; cause?
Buried: Rose Hills Memorial Park, Covina, Los Angeles Co., California
Military: U.S. Navy, 1944-1946 (Did he serve overseas in WWII)
Married: Apr 4, 1970, Florence Gertrude (Shoults) Chalberg, Las Vegas, Clark Co., Nevada
Divorced: Sep 1974, Los Angeles Co., California

Edward Emille Haar
Son of John Haar & Sarah Elizabeth “Betty” Fuller
Born: Jan 19, 1883, Pennsylvania Co., Virginia
Died: Dec 29, 1918 (age 35), Atlanta, Fulton Co., Georgia; cause?
Buried: Green Hill Cemetery in Danville, Danville City, Virginia
Married: Jan 1, 1912, Sophia May “Sophie” Wall, Richmond Co., Virginia
Two children: Edward Langdon Haar, Elizabeth Sophie “Betty” Haar

1. Edward Langdon Haar
1st of 2 children of Edward Emille Haar & Sophie May Wall
Born: Nov 24, 1914, Marathon, Brewster Co., Texas
Died: Jan 13, 1960 (age 45), Long Beach, Los Angeles Co., California; cause?
Buried: Forest Lawn Memorial Park in Glendale, Los Angeles Co., California;
Inspiration Slope, Lot 872, Space 6
Military: WWII, U.S. Navy, MOMM2 USNR
Occupation: Proprietor of a gasoline filling station
Married: Jan 21, 1937, Martha Jayne Horsley, Glendale, Los Angeles Co., California
Two children: Linda Gay Haar, Janell D. (middle name?) Haar

Martha Jayne Horsley
Daughter of William Clifford Horsley, Sr., & Sallie Florence Allis
Born: Nov 19, 1917, Vanceburg, Lewis Co., Kentucky
Died: Nov 23, 2001 (age 84), Tucson, Pima Co., Arizona; cause?
Buried: Forest Lawn Memorial Park, Glendale, Los Angeles Co., California;
Col. of Heavenly Peace, Lot 0, Space 1285
Married (1): Jun 21, 1937: Edward Langdon Haar, Glendale, Los Angeles Co., California
Two children: Linda Gay Haar, Janell D. Haar
Married (2): Apr 26, 1963, James Stanley Netherly, Los Angeles, Los Angeles Co., California
Married (3): Jun 25, 1967, Guy Edward Cuzner, Los Angeles, Los Angeles Co., California

James Stanley Netherly (PHOTO?)
Son of Jasper Newton Netherly & Ida E. Page/Paige
Born: Jul 18, 1904, Campton, Wolfe Co., Kentucky
Died: Jul 31, 1964 (age 60), Glendale, Los Angeles Co., California; cause?
Buried: Forest Lawn Memorial Park in Glendale, Los Angeles Co., California
Married (1): abt 1923, Margaret Smith Turpin (when and where?)
Three children: stillborn female Netherly, Jeryl James “Jerry” Netherly, David Stanley Netherly
Divorced: Margaret married Ralph E. Haney before the 1940 Dayton, Ohio census
Married (2): Jun 10, 1939, Winifred Alice Daugherty, Richmond, Wayne Co., Indiana
Married (3): Apr 26, 1963, Martha Jayne Horsley, Los Angeles, Los Angeles Co., California

Guy Edward Cuznar (PHOTO?)
Son of Guy Luke Cuzner & Irene Isabel Abel
Military: WWII, Sgt.
Born: Dec 29, 1912, Los Angeles, Los Angeles Co., California
Died: Sep 18, 1984 (age 71), Redondo Beach, Los Angeles Co., California; cause?

Buried: Forest Lawn Memorial Park, Glendale, Los Angeles Co., California
Married (1): Jul 1, 1935, Elizabeth Cotheal White, North Hollywood, Los Angeles Co., California
One child: Guy Lewis Cuzner

Married (2): Jun 25, 1967, Martha Jayne (Horsely) Netherly, Los Angeles, Los Angeles Co., California

2. Elizabeth Sophie “Betty” Haar
2nd of 2 children of Edward Emille Haar & Sophie May Wall
Born: Oct 22, 1916, (city and county), Alabama
Died: Sep 3, 2013 (age 96), Tucson, Pima Co., Arizona; cause?
Buried: Forest Lawn Memorial Park in Glendale, Los Angeles Co., California;
Whispering Pines, Map 3, Lot 2354, Space 5
Married: May 24, 1939, Clarence Herbert Ayers, (city and county?) California
No children

Clarence Herbert Ayers
2nd of 5 children of Albert Vernon Ayers & Stella May Bradley
Born: Dec 27, 1909, Peck, Sumner Co., Kansas
Died: Dec 13, 1976 (age 66), Tucson, Pima Co., Arizona
Buried: Forest Lawn Memorial Park, Glendale, Los Angeles Co., California;
Whispering Pines, Map 3, Lot 2354, Space 4
Military: WWII, U.S. Army, Tec 3
Occupation: Grocery store salesman, filling station attendant, retail manager, Union Oil
Married: May 24, 1939, Elizabeth Sophie “Betty” Haar, California
No children

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Only child of Charles Elliott Shaw, Sr. & Ora Lovina Chatfield
1. Charles Elliott “Elliott” Shaw, Jr.
1899–1973

Five children of Langdon Wall  & Clara Suela/Luella “Carrie” Nash
1. Raymond Nash Wall
1880–1946
2. Sophia May “Sophie” Wall
1884–1969
3. Edna Langdon Wall
1886–1919
4. Harold Lyman Wall
1893–1960
5. Ralph Eastman Wall
1896–1954

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Timeline and Records

Spellings and information in letters, census, and other records
are retained as in the original documents.
(italicized clarifications or corrections are in parentheses)
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May 6, 1884: Birth of Sophia May “Sophie” Wall, 2nd of 5 children of Langdon Wall & Clara Suela/Luella (spelled both ways in several records, so I used both) “Carrie” Nash, in Webster, Monroe Co., New York

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oct 13, 1899: Birth of Charles “Elliott” Shaw, Jr., the only child of Ora Lovina Chatfield & Charles Elliott Shaw, in Spring Creek, Big Horn Co., Wyoming

Oct 13, 1899: Charles Elliott Shaw, birth certificate:

Jun 17 & 18, 1900: U.S Federal Census, Spring Creek, Big Horn Co., Wyoming:
Shaw, Charles: Head, born May 1859, age 41, married 2 years, born Iowa, father born Ohio, mother born Ohio, farmer, 87 farm animals
Ora: Wife, born Jul 1873, age 26, married 2 years, 1 child born, 1 child living, born Nebraska, father born Ohio, mother born Illinois
Charles E., Jr.: Son, born Oct 1899, age 9 months, born Wyoming, father born Iowa, mother born Nebraska
Note: five other persons listed in same household, 4 farm laborers and a Chinese cook

Oct 17, 1903: Glenwood Post, Glenwood Springs, Garfield Co. Colorado (pg 5):
BASALT BUBBLES.
Mrs. Chas. Shaw departed for her home in Casper, Wyoming Sunday evening after spending the summer here with her parents, Mr. and Mrs. C.S. Chatfield.
Note: On Oct 13, 1903, Ora’s son Charles “Elliott” Shaw Jr. celebrates his 4th birthday. Ora is almost 30.

Mar 14, 1905: Wyoming Semi-Weekly Tribune, Cheyenne, Wyoming (pg 7): 
C.E. Shaw and wife and son, Elliot, are “up country” this week, guests at the Joe Henry home. They will take in the dance at Mr. Bragg’s on the 9th inst, before their return

Apr 8, 1905: Wyoming Tribune, Cheyenne, Wyoming (pg 2):
Hyattville and Ten Sleep News
Hyattville, March 29.—Mr. and Mrs. Sam Gapen, entertained Mr. and Mrs. C.E. Shaw and son, Elliott of Ten Sleep, a few days the first of the week.

Jun 27, 1905: Wyoming Semi-Weekly Tribune, Cheyenne, Laramie Co., Wyoming (pg 7):
Ten Sleep News
Mrs. C.E. Shaw and son, Elliott, were guests at the Joe Henry home last week.
Mrs. C.E. Shaw visited with her sister, Mrs. George Sawyer, Thursday of this week.
Mrs. George Sawyer came down from Otter Creek Saturday and spent Sunday with her sister, Mrs. C.E. Shaw. Mrs. Sawyer sang a very pretty solo at the Methodist church Sunday evening. She will be sadly missed in our social and church circles, where she has been a general favorite. George Sawyer and his father have sold their cattle and ranch and will move this week to Santa Barbara, Cal. They go via Portland and will enjoy the Lewis and Clarke exposition for a few days. The good wishes of the entire community follow these good people to their new home

Nov 4, 1905: Thermopolis Record, Thermopolis, Wyoming (pg 3):
Mrs. C.E. Shaw and son are over from their home at Big trails for a stay at the Sanitarium.

Nov 30, 1905: Basin Republican, Basin, Big Horn Co., Wyoming (pg 1):
The trustees of the County Fair Association, recently organized, met at the Commercial Club rooms in Basin on Saturday night, perfected the organization and began making arrangements for giving a fair next fall, which shall be a credit to the county and a source of happiness to all the people.
Note: A list of members in Basin includes C.E. Shaw.
Hon. C.E. Shaw, with his charming wife and bright little son, Elliott, is now comfortably domiciled in the house owned by Lew Zane on C Street. He will remain with us during the winter, and possibly longer, as he is seriously contemplating the erection of a palatial residence at the county seat next spring.

Dec 2, 1905: Wyoming Tribune, Cheyenne, Wyoming (pg 3):
Hyattville and Ten Sleep News
Mrs. C.E. Shaw and son Elliot, spent last week with the J.S. Gapen family. They accompanied Mr. Shaw to Basin Saturday. Mrs. Shaw informs the writer that they have rented a house there in which to live until they get their residence completed which they hope will be by April 1.
Mesdames J.S. Gapen and C.E. Shaw were dinner guests Thursday evening at the E.C. Smith home.
C.E. Shaw was out from Basin in last week and moved his household furniture down to that city

Jul 3, 1906: Wyoming Tribune, Cheyenne, Wyoming (pg 2):
Hyattville and Ten Sleep News
Mr. C.E Shaw and son, Elliot, came out from Basin last week to visit Mr. Shaw, who was slightly injured by being thrown from a horse while on the roundup.

1908: Langdon Wall (age 81) (Sophie’s father), and grandson, Charles Elliott Shaw, Jr. (age 8):

Jun 29, 1909: Picture postcard of “Elliott” Shaw to his grandmother, Mary (Morrow) Chatfield:
Back of card with Ora’s handwriting reads: Charles “Elliott” Shaw (Elliott C. Shaw, almost age 10) sent to his grandmother, Mrs. C.S. (Clark Samuel) Chatfield, living in Monrovia, Los Angeles Co., California

1909: Wyoming, U.S., School Census:
Name Elliot Shaw
Gender Male
Race White
Age 10
Birth Date abt 1899
Birth Place Wyoming
Residence Date 1909
Residence Place Basin, Big Horn, Wyoming
Parent or Guardian Name C.S. Shaw
Parent or Guardian Residence Place Basin
Notes District 1-24

Apr 26, 1910: U.S. Federal Census, Basin Town, Big Horn Co., Wyoming:
Shaw, Charles E.: head, age 50, married 11 years, born Iowa, father born Ohio, mother born Ohio, stockman
Shaw, Ora C.: wife, age 35, married 11 years, 1 child born, 1 child living, born Nebraska, father born Illinois, mother born Ohio, County Department Treasurer
Shaw, Elliott C.: son, age 10, born Wyoming, father born Iowa, mother born Nebraska
George C. Morris: age 44, born Ohio, single, Newspaper reporter, employer

Circa 1909, Wyoming: Charles & Ora (Chatfield) Shaw and family members:

Shaw photo contributed by Terril Mills (a Shaw connection)
1. possibly Ora’s younger sister Marjorie Emma Chatfield, age 16, born Nov 1893
2. possibly Ora’s younger sister, Mabel (Chatfield) Sawyer, age 25, born Oct 1883
3. possibly Ora’s older sister Della Chatfield (married to Elmer Chatfield), age 36, born Jan 1872
4. Charles Elliott Shaw, Jr., (son of Ora Chatfield & Charles Elliot Shaw. Sr.), age 10, born Oct 1899
5. presumably Ora Lovina (Chatfield) Shaw, age 35, born Jul 1873
6. Charles Elliott Shaw, Sr., age 50, born May 1859 (he is identified in photo)
“Mabel Chatfield was quite short, not even five feet tall, whereas her sisters Marjorie and Jacquelin were almost six-foot” —Pat Benacquista, daughter of Charlotte Putnam, granddaughter of Clark S. Chatfield and his 1st wife Ida Hyatt

Sep 27, 1911: Basin Republican, Basin, Big Horn Co., Wyoming (pg 1):
C.E. Shaw and son Elliott came down from Tenlseep on Tuesday.

Jan 1, 1912: Marriage of Sophia May “Sophie” Wall & Edward Emille Haar in Richmond Co., Virginia

Wedding photo?

Jan 1, 1912: Sophie Wall in her wedding dress:

circa 1913: Elliott C. Shaw and mother, Ora (Chatfield) Shaw:
Elliott (abt age 13) and Ora (abt age 40), circa 1913

Jun 19, 1914: Big Horn County Rustler, Basin, Big Horn Co., Wyoming (pg 8):
Mr. C.E. Shaw and Master Elliott came down on Saturday from the ranch, where they had been since the beginning of the school vacation.

Oct 2, 1914: Big Horn County Rustler, Basin, Big Horn Co., Wyoming (pg 8):
Mr. C.E. Shaw this week packed his household goods for storage and will leave for Tensleep. Master Elliott will make his home with Mr. and Mrs. Neal Anderson while continuing his school work.

Nov 24, 1914: Birth of Edward Langdon Haar, 1st of 2 children of Edward Emille Haar & Sophie May Wall, in Marathon, Brewster Co., Texas. (PHOTO?)

Emille Haar w/son Edward 1916

Mar 17, 1916: Big Horn County Rustler, Basin, Big Horn Co., Wyoming (pg 4):
School notes.
The baseball club have elected Elliot Shaw captain and Dale Leighty secretary and treasurer.

Oct 22, 1916: Birth of Elizabeth Sophie “Betty” Haar, 2nd of 2 children of Edward Emille Haar & Sophie May Wall, in Alabama

(BABY OR CHILD PHOTO?)

Sep 12, 1918: WWI Draft Registration Card:
NAME: Edward Emille Haar
PERMANENT ADDRESS: 443 Cherokee ave, Atlanta, Fulton County, Georgia
AGE: 35
DATE OF BIRTH: Jan 19, 1883
PRESENT OCCUPATION: (unable to read)
PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT: Lakewood Station, Atlanta, Fulton County, Georgia
WIFE: Mrs. Sophia May Haar
DESCRIPTION: tall, slender, blue eyes, black hair
Note: Edward Haar is Sophie’s 1st husband

Dec 29, 1918: Death of Edward Emille Haar (age 35), 1st husband of Sophie May Wall, in Atlanta, Fulton Co., Georgia

OLDER MAN PHOTO?

Dec 30, 1918: The Atlanta Constitution, Atlanta, Fulton Co., Georgia:

Burial of Edward Emille Haar at Green Hill Cemetery, Danville, Danville City, Virginia

Sep 12, 1918: WWI Draft Registration Card:
Name: Charles Shaw
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 13 Oct 1899
Death Date: 22 Feb 1973
Enlistment Date 1: 25 Jun 1918
Release Date 1: 22 Jul 1919

Charles Elliott Shaw, Jr., WWI

Dec 7, 1919: Marriage of Elliott C. Shaw (Charles “Elliott” Shaw, Jr.) & Gladys Forbes Simonds, in Basin, Big Horn Co., Wyoming, his first marriage.
Note: Elliott C. Shaw, age 20, is the son of Ora Chatfield & Charles E. Shaw. Gladys is 17

Western States Marriage Index:
Name: Charles E Shaw
Spouse: Gladys F Simonds
Marriage Date: 1919
Marriage Place: Big Horn, Wyoming

Jan 5, 1920: U.S. Federal Census, Basin, Big Horn Co., Wyoming:
Shaw, Elliott C.: Head, rents, age 20, married, born Wyoming, father born Illinois, mother born Kansas, business
Gladys B.: Wife, age 17, married, born Ohio, father born Ohio, mother born Ohio
Note: Elliot is transcribed as Ellen in the census index

Jan 29, 1920: U.S. Federal Census, Tunstall, Pittsylvania Co., Virginia:
Haar, John: Head, age 63, married, born France, father born France, mother born France
Sarah E: Wife, age 60, married, born Virginia, father born Virginia, mother born Virginia
George W: Son, age 38, married, born Virginia, father born France, mother born Virginia
Sophia M: Daughter-in-law, age 35, married, born New York, father born New York, mother born New York (widow of Edward Emille Haar)
Mary E: Daughter-in-law, age 34, married, born Virginia
Ruby: Granddaughter: age 6, born Virginia, father born Virginia, mother born Virginia
Mary: Granddaughter, age 3 9/12, born Virginia, father born Virginia, mother born Virginia
George W Jr: Grandson, age 1 2/12, born Virginia, father born Virginia, mother born Virginia
Edward L: Grandson, age 5, born Texas, father born Virginia, mother born New York
Elizabeth: Granddaughter, age 3 2/12, Alabama, father born Virginia, mother born New York
Fannie: Daughter, age 34, divorced, born Virginia, father born France, mother born Virginia
Mary E: Granddaughter, age 16, single, born Virginia, father born Virginia, mother born Virginia
Note: Sophie is living with her in-laws and is listed as a married daughter-in-law, her children Edward and Elizabeth, are listed as grandchildren

Nov 19, 1920: Big Horn County Rustler, Basin, Big Horn Co., Wyoming (pg 1):
District court cases.
A decree of divorce granted Charles E. Shaw in the case of Charles E. Shaw vs. Ora C. Shaw.
Note: Charles and Ora Shaw are the parents of Charles “Elliott” Shaw, Jr.

June 28, 1923: Marriage of Leland Guy Teeters & Gladys F. (Simonds) Shaw, the 1st wife of Charles Elliott “Elliott” Shaw, Jr., in Billings, Yellowstone Co., Montana

(PHOTO?)

June 28, 1923: Montana Marriages:
Name Gladys F. Shaw (Gladys F. (Simonds) Shaw)
Gender Female
Race White
Marital Status Divorced
Age 23
Birth Date 1902
Birth Place Cleveland, Ohio
Marriage Date 28 Jun 1923
Marriage Place Billings, Yellowstone, Montana
Father George F. Simmons  (George Francis Simonds)
Mother May A. Forbes
Spouse Leland G. Teeters (Leland Guy Teeters)

Name Leland G. Teeters (Leland Guy Teeters)
Gender Male
Race White
Marital Status Single
Age 23
Birth Date 1900
Birth Place Goodland, Kansas
Marriage Date 28 Jun 1923
Marriage Place Billings, Yellowstone, Montana
Father Charles R. Teeters
Mother Sarah Sloop
Spouse Gladys F. Shaw
FHL Film Number 1943760

1925: Marriage of Charles “Elliott” Shaw, Jr. & Sophie May Wall, the 2nd marriage for both.
Note: Elliott Shaw is age 26, Sophie is age 41. Her 1st husband, Edward Emille Haar, died in 1918.

Feb 20, 1926: Birth of Charles “Mike” Elliott Shaw, III, the only child of Charles “Elliott” Shaw (age 27) & Sophie May Wall (age 42), in Alhambra, Los Angeles Co., California

(THIS IS THE ONLY PHOTO I HAVE OF HIM)

California Birth Index:
Name Charles Shaw
Sex Male
Event Type Birth
Event Date 20 Feb 1926
Event Place Los Angeles, California, United States

California Birth Record:
Name Charles Shaw
Birth: Date 20 Feb 1926
Gender: Male
Mother’s Maiden Name: Wall
Birth County: Los Angeles

Note: Sophie had two children with Edward E. Haar in her 1st marriage, and has shaved 12 years off her age

Charles Elliot Shaw, Sr., with probably his grandson, Charles “Mike” Shaw:

1926: Voter Registration Index, Alhambra City, Precinct #11, Los Angeles Co., California:
Shaw, Elliott, 626 Sierra Vista av, cncrt, R
Shaw, Mrs Sophie, 626 Sierra Vista av, hswf, R

1928: Voter Registration Index, Howard Precinct No. 2, Los Angeles Co., California:
Shaw, Charles E, 1266 W 90th st, pstmn, R
Shaw, Mrs Sophie M, 1266 W 90th st, hswf, R

1930: Voter Registration Index, Howard Precinct No. 3, Los Angeles Co., California:
Shaw, Charles E, 1266 W 90th st, lttr crrr, R
Shaw, Mrs Sophie M, 1266 W 90th st, hswf, R

Apr 2, 1930: U.S. Federal Census, Gardena, Los Angeles Co., California:
Shaw, Charles E.: head, age 31, 1st marriage age 26, born Wyoming, father born Iowa, mother born Nebraska, letter carrier
Shaw, Sophie M.: wife, age 35, 1st marriage age 30, born New York, father born New York, mother born Iowa
Shaw, Charles E. III: son, age 3 yrs, 2 mo, born California, father born Wyoming, mother born New York
Haer, Edward T.: stepson, age 15, born Texas, father born Virginia, mother born New York (Edward Langdon Haar)
Haer, Elizabeth S.: stepdaughter, age 13, born Alabama, father born Virginia, mother born New York (Elizabeth Sophie Haar)
Note: The second marriage for both Charles and Sophie; Sophie is actually age 45.
Edward and Elizabeth Haar, the children of Edward Emille Haar & Sophie May Wall, are living with Sophie and her new family.

May 18, 1932: Death of Charles Elliot Shaw, Sr. (age 72), the father of Charles “Elliott” Shaw, Jr. (Cause of death?)

Burial of Charles Elliot Shaw, Sr. in Forest Lawn Memorial Park, Glendale, Los Angeles Co., California; Whispering Pines, Lot 2229, Space 3

circa 1933: Charles Elliott “Elliott” Shaw, Jr., standing in front of a 1933 Dodge:

Charles Elliott “Mike” Shaw, son of Charles “Elliott” Shaw, Jr. & Sophie May Wall 

1934: Voter Registration Index, Howard Precinct No. 2, Los Angeles Co., California:
Shaw, Charles E, 1254 W 90th st, R
Shaw, Mrs Sophie M, 1254 W 90th st, R
Shaw, Mrs Ora C, 1258 W 90th st, D
Note: Ora (age 60) is living with her son (age 35) and daughter-in-law (age 50)

Jul 24, 1936: Death of Ora Lovina (Chatfield) Shaw (age 63), mother of Charles “Elliott” Shaw, Jr., in Los Angeles Co., California.

Jul 1936: Burial of Ora Lovina (Chatfield) Shaw, Forest Lawn Memorial Park, Glendale, Los Angeles Co., California; Whispering Pines, Lot 2229, Space 4
Note: Ora is buried alongside her former husband, Charles Elliot Shaw, Sr.

1936: Voter Registration Index, Howard Precinct No. 3, Los Angeles Co., California:
Haar, Edward L, 1254 W 90th st, truck driver, R
Shaw, Charles E, 1254 W 90th st, letter carrier, D
Shaw, Mrs Sophie, 1254 W 90th st, housewife, R
Note: Charles & Sophie are living with Sophie’s son, Edward Haar

Apr 4, 1940: U.S. Federal Census, Inglewood, Los Angeles Co., California:
Shaw, Charles E.: head, male, white, married, age 41, born Wyoming, Letter Carrier, United State Post Office, high school 4th year
Sophie: wife, female, white, married, age 45, born New York, high school 3rd year
Charles Jr.: son, male, white, single, age 14, born California, elementary school 7th grade

1940: Voter Registration Index, Howard Precinct No. 3, Los Angeles Co., California:
Haar, Edward L, 1254 W 90th st, truck driver, R
Haar, Mrs Martha Jane, 1258 W 90th st, housewife, D
Shaw, Charles E, 1254 W 90th st, letter carrier, D
Shaw, Mrs Sophie, 1254 W 90th st, housewife, R
Note: Charles & Sophie are living with Sophie’s son Edward and his wife, Martha

1942: Voter Registration Index, Howard Precinct No. 3, Los Angeles Co., California:
Haar, Edward L, 1254 W 90th st, truck driver, R
Haar, Mrs Martha Jane, 1258 W 90th st, housewife, D
Shaw, Charles E, 1254 W 90th st, letter carrier, D
Shaw, Mrs Sophie, 1254 W 90th st, housewife, R
Note: Charles & Sophie Are living with Sophie’s son Edward and his wife, Martha

Feb 14, 1942: WWII Draft Record:
Name: Charles Elliott Shaw
Gender: Male
Race: White
Age: 42
Relationship to Draftee: Self (Head)
Birth Date: 13 Oct 1899
Birth Place: Sheridan, Wyoming
Residence Place: Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California
Registration Date: 14 Feb 1942
Registration Place: Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California
Employer: U S Post Office
Weight: 130
Complexion: Light
Eye Color: Brown
Hair Color: Brown
Height: 5 9
Next of Kin: Charles Mike Shaw

Feb 19, 1944: U.S. Dept of Veterans Affairs:
Name Charles Elliott Shaw
Gender Male
Birth Date 20 Feb 1926
Death Date 23 Nov 1982
Enlistment Branch Navy
Enlistment Date 19 Feb 1944
Discharge Date 19 Dec 1946
Page number 4

1944: Voter Registration Index, Howard Precinct No. 3, Los Angeles Co., California:
Haar, Edward L, 1254 W 90th st, truck driver, R
Haar, Mrs Martha Jane, 1258 W 90th st, housewife, D
Shaw, Charles E, 1254 W 90th st, letter carrier, D
Shaw, Mrs Sophie, 1254 W 90th st, housewife, R
Note: Charles & Sophie are living with Sophie’s son Edward and his wife, Martha

1946: Voter Registration Index, Howard Precinct No. 3, Los Angeles Co., California:
Haar, Edward L, 1254 W 90th st, R
Haar, Mrs Martha Jane, 1258 W 90th st, D
Shaw, Charles E, 1250 W 90th st, D
Shaw, Mrs Sophie, 1250 W 90th st, R
Note: Charles & Sophie are living with Sophie’s son Edward and his wife, Martha

Jan 7, 1947: U.S. WWII Draft Card:
Name Charles E Shaw (Charles Elliott “Mike” Shaw, III)
Gender Male
Race White
Age 20
Relationship to Draftee Self (Head)
Birth Date 20 Feb 1926
Birth Place Los Angeles, California
Residence Place Los Angeles, California
Registration Date 7 Jan 1947
Registration Place Los Angeles, California
Employer Returned Veteran
Height 6
Weight 165
Complexion Light
Hair Color Brown
Eye Color Brown
Next of Kin Ayers (Elizabeth Sophie “Betty” (Haar) Ayers, his half-sister):

May 16, 1948: Death of Gladys Forbes (Simonds) Shaw Teeters Lefford (age 46), daughter of George Francis Simonds & Mary A. Forbes, and 1st wife of Charles Elliott “Elliott” Shaw, Jr., in Los Angeles Co., California

May 16, 1948: California Death Record:
Name Gladys Forbes Lefferd
Gender Female
Birth Date 18 Feb 1902
Birth Place Ohio
Death Date 16 May 1948
Death Place Los Angeles
Mother’s Maiden Name Forbes
Father’s Surname Simmonds (Simonds)

1948: Voter Registration Index, San Bernardino Prec. No.54, San Bernardino Co., California:
Haar, Edward L.—1427 Sierra Way, Rep
Haar, Mrs Martha Jayne—1427 Sierra Way, Dem
Note: Nov 12, 1948; Edward Haar is the son of Sophie Shaw

1948: Voter Registration Index, Howard Precinct No. 3, Los Angeles Co., California:
Shaw, Charles E, 1250 W 90th st, D
Shaw, Mrs Sophie, 1250 W 90th st, R

1950: Voter Registration Index, Howard Precinct No. 3, Los Angeles Co., California:
Shaw, Charles, 1250 W 90th st, R. (son, Charles Elliott “Mike” Shaw, III)
Shaw, Charles E, 1250 W 90th st, D (Charles Elliott Shaw, Jr.)
Shaw, Mrs Sophie, 1250 W 90th st, R
Note: Charles Shaw (age 24), father Charles E. Shaw (age 50), Sophie Shaw (age 65)

1952: Voter Registration Index, Lakewood Precinct No. 76, Los Angeles Co., California:
Haar, Edward L, 4130 Carfax av, R (son of Sophie Shaw)
Haar, Mrs Martha Jayne, 4130 Carfax av, D

1952: Voter Registration Index, Howard Precinct No. 3, Los Angeles Co., California:
Shaw, Charles, 1250 W 90th st, R (son, Charles Elliott “Mike” Shaw, III)
Shaw, Charles E, 1250 W 90th st, D (Charles Elliott Shaw, Jr.)
Shaw, Mrs Sophie, 1250 W 90th st, R

1954: Voter Registration Index, Lakewood Precinct No. 76, Los Angeles Co., California:
Haar, Edward L, 4130 Carfax av, R (son of Sophie Shaw)
Haar, Mrs Martha Jayne, 4130 Carfax av, D

1954: Voter Registration Index, Howard Precinct No. 3, Los Angeles Co., California:
Shaw, Charles E, 1250 W 90th st, D
Shaw, Mrs Sophie, 1250 W 90th st, R

Jan 13, 1960: Death of Edward Langdon Haar (age 45), 1st of 2 children of Edward Emille Haar & Sophie May Wall, in Long Beach, Los Angeles Co., California

Jan 1960: Burial of Edward Langdon Haar, Forest Lawn Memorial Park,  Glendale, Los Angeles Co., California

May 8, 1969: Nevada Marriage Recording Index for Chalberg:
CHALBERG, FLORENCE G and CHARLES M SHAW (son of Charles Elliott “Elliott” Shaw, Jr. & Sophie May Wall)
Marriage certificate #196905080492658
Recorded in Clark County, Nevada, U.S.A.
May 8, 1969

Aug 12, 1969: Death of Sophie May (Wall) Shaw (age 85), wife of Charles “Elliott” Shaw, Jr., in Los Angeles Co., California

Aug 1969: Burial of Sophie May (Wall) Shaw, Forest Lawn Memorial Park, Glendale, Los Angeles Co., California

Apr 4, 1970: Marriage of Florence Gertrude (Shoults) Chalberg & Charles Elliott “Mike” Shaw, III, the only child of Charles Elliott “Elliott” Shaw, Jr. & Sophia May “Sophie” Wall, in Las Vegas, Nevada
(PHOTO?)

Apr 4, 1970: U.S. Marriage Index, Nevada:
Name Charles M Shaw (Charles Elliott “Mike” Shaw, III)
Gender Male
Residence State California
Spouse Florence Chalberg (Florence Gertrude (Shoults) Chalberg)
Spouse Residence State California
Marriage Date 4 Apr 1970
Marriage City Las Vegas
Officiant type Civil celebrant
Recorded Date 10 Apr 1970

Feb 22, 1973: Death of Charles Elliott “Elliott” Shaw, Jr. (age 73), the only child of Charles Elliott Shaw, Sr. & Ora Lovina Chatfield, in Montebello, Los Angeles Co., California

California Death Index:
Name: Charles E Shaw
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 13 Oct 1899
Birth Place: Wyoming
Death Date: 22 Feb 1973
Death Place: Los Angeles

Feb 24, 1973: Los Angeles Times, Los Angeles, Los Angeles Co., (pg 24):

Son: Charles M. Shaw (Charles Elliott “Mike” Shaw, III)
Daughter-in-Law: Florence G. Shaw (Florence Gertrude (Shoults) Chalberg Shaw)
Grandchildren unknown (Florence had five children from prior marriages, so perhaps the obituary is referring to them.

Feb 1973: Burial of Charles Elliott “Elliott” Shaw, Jr., alongside his wife Sophie, Forest Lawn Cemetery, Glendale, Los Angeles Co., California; Whispering Pines, Lot 2229, Space 1

Sep 1974: California Divorce Index:
Name Charles Shaw (Charles Elliott “Mike” Shaw, III)
Spouse Name Florence G Shoults (Florence Gertrude (Shoults) Chalberg)
Location Los Angeles
Date Sep 1974

Nov 23, 1982: Death of Charles “Mike” Elliott Shaw, III, the only child of Charles “Elliott” Shaw & Sophie May Wall, Los Angeles Co., California

Nov 23, 1982: U.S. Department of Veteran Affairs Death File:
Name Charles Shaw
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 20 Feb 1926
Death Date: 23 Nov 1982
Branch 1: NAVY
Enlistment Date 1: 19 Feb 1944
Release Date 1: 19 Dec 1946

Nov 23, 1982: California Death Index:
Name Charles Mike Shaw
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 20 Feb 1926
Birth Place: California
Death Date: 23 Nov 1982
Death Place: Los Angeles
Mother’s Maiden Name: Wall

Nov 1982: U.S. Social Security Index:
Name Charles Shaw
Birth Date 20 Feb 1926
Issue year Before 1951
Issue State California
Last Benefit 91724, Covina, Los Angeles, California
Death Date Nov 1982

Nov 1982: Burial of Charles Elliott “Mike” Shaw, III, Rose Hills Memorial Park, Glendale, Los Angeles Co., California; Marigold Lawn, Gate 1, Section 5, Lot 423, Grave 1

Note: His former wife is buried in the same cemetery under the name of Florence Gertrude Chalberg, Gate 1, Section 2, Lot 2905, Grave 4; Florence died Jan 12, 1988

Sep 3, 2013: Death of Elizabeth Sophie “Betty” (Haar) Ayers (age 96), 2nd of 2 children of Edward Emille Haar & Sophie May Wall, in Tucson, Pima Co., Arizona

OLDER PHOTO?

Sep 3, 2013: Burial of Elizabeth Sophie “Betty” Haar, Forest Lawn Memorial Park, Glendale, Los Angeles Co., California; Whispering Pines, Map 3, Lot 2354, Space 5

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Lyman Wall & Eveline Langdon Family

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Lyman Wall
1st of 2 children of Ebenezer Welsh Wall & Hannah Mack
Born: Jul 24, 1828, Webster, Monroe Co., New York
Died: Jan 30, 1904 (age 75), Webster, Monroe Co., New York (cause?)
Buried: Webster Rural Cemetery, Webster, Monroe Co., New York; Section D, Row #18, Stone #8
Military: U.S. Civil War, Union (any more info?)
Occupation: Teacher, farmer, scientific gardener (originated 26 varieties of seed potatoes)
Married: Sep 1852, Eveline Langdon, (where?) New York
Two children: Langdon Wall, George Wall

Eveline Langdon
Daughter of Fayette Langdon & Frances “Fanny” Perry
Born: Oct 6, 1827, Webster, Monroe Co., New York
Died: May 4, 1914 (age 86), Webster, Monroe Co., New York (cause?)
Buried: Webster Rural Cemetery, Webster, Monroe Co., New York; Section D, Row #18, Stone #7
Married: Sep 1852, Lyman Wall, New York
Two children: Langdon Wall, George Wall

1. Langdon Wall
1st of 2 children of Lyman Wall & Eveline Langdon
Born: Jun 14, 1853, Webster, Monroe Co., New York (cause?)
Died: Jun 6, 1937 (age 83), Los Angeles Co., California
Buried: Hollywood Cemetery, Richmond, City of Richmond, Virginia; Section 9
Occupation: Traveling laborer, manager of plow company
Married: Dec 16, 1879, Clara Suela/Luella “Carrie” Nash, Rochester, Monroe Co., New York
Five children: Raymond Nash Wall, Sophia May “Sophie” Wall, Edna Langdon Wall, Harold Lyman “Larry” Wall, Ralph Eastman Wall

2. George Wall
2nd of 2 children of Lyman Wall & Eveline Langdon
Born: May 16, 1857, Monroe Co., New York
Died: Aug 2, 1932 (age 75), New York (cause?)
Buried: Webster Rural Cemetery, Webster, Monroe Co., New York; Section D, Row #18, Stone #5
Occupation: Watch & clock repairman, jeweler, store owner
Married: Jan 13, 1887, Ida May Burrow, Penfield, Monroe Co., New York
Four children: Hollis Burrow Wall, Osmond George Wall, Roger Smith Wall, Evelyn M. Wall

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1. Langdon Wall
1st of 2 children of Lyman Wall & Eveline Langdon
Born: Jun 14, 1853, Webster, Monroe Co., New York
Died: Jun 6, 1937 (age 83), Los Angeles Co., California
Buried: Hollywood Cemetery, Richmond, City of Richmond, Virginia; Section 9
Occupation: Traveling laborer, manager of plow company
Married: Dec 16, 1879, Clara Suela/Luella “Carrie” Nash, Rochester, Monroe Co., New York
Five children: Raymond Nash Wall, Sophia May “Sophie” Wall, Edna Langdon Wall, Harold Lyman “Larry” Wall, Ralph Eastman Wall

Clara Suela/Luella “Carrie” Nash
Daughter of Chauncey Nash & Abbie Pomroy Eastman
Born: Mar 28, 1860, Mount Pleasant, Henry Co., Iowa
Died: Apr 7, 1909 (age 49), Richmond, City of Richmond, Virginia (cause?)
Buried: Hollywood Cemetery, Richmond, City of Richmond, Virginia; Section 9
Married: Dec 16, 1879, Langdon Wall, Rochester, Monroe Co., New York
Five children: Raymond Nash “Ray” Wall, Sophia May “Sophie” Wall, Edna Langdon Wall, Harold Lyman “Larry’ Wall, Ralph Eastman Wall

1. Raymond Nash “Ray” Wall
1st of 5 children of Langdon Wall & Clara Suela/Luella “Carrie” Nash
Born: Jun 9, 1881, Webster, Monroe Co., New York
Died: Apr 30, 1946 (age 64), Richmond, City of Richmond, Virginia (cause?)
Buried: May 2, 1946, Hollywood Cemetery, Richmond, City of Richmond, Virginia; Section: 26 Lot: 75-A
Occupation: Salesman, manager for farm implements
Married: 1905, Louise C. Talbott, Richmond, City of Richmond, Virginia
No children

2. Sophia May “Sophie” Wall
2nd of 5 children of Langdon Wall & Clara Suela/Luella “Carrie” Nash
Born: May 6, 1884, Webster, Monroe Co., New York
Died: Aug 12, 1969 (age 85), Los Angeles, Los Angeles Co., California
Buried: Forest Lawn Memorial Park, Glendale, Los Angeles Co., California
Married (1): Jan 1, 1912, Edward Emille Haar, Richmond Co., Virginia
Two children: Edward Langdon Haar, Elizabeth Sophie Haar
1. Edward Langdon Haar
1914–1960
2. Elizabeth Sophie Haar
1914–1960
Married (2): 1925, Charles “Elliott” Shaw, Jr.
One child:
1. Charles Elliott “Mike” Shaw, III
1926–1982

3. Edna Langdon Wall
3rd of 5 children of Langdon Wall & Clara Suela/Luella “Carrie” Nash
Born: May 24, 1886, New York
Died: Aug 8, 1919 (age 33); two months after the birth of her last child (cause?)
Buried: Hollywood Cemetery, Richmond, City of Richmond, Virginia
Married: 1908, George Dennison Robinson, Virginia
Six children: Clara May Robinson, William John “Billy” Robinson, Dorothy Bruce Robinson, Virginia Ruth Robinson, Catherine Hopper Robinson, Langdon Wall “Buster” Robinson
1. Clara May Robinson
1909–1922
2. William John “Billy” Robinson
1911–living in 1930 census
3. Dorothy Bruce Robinson
1912–1966
4. Virginia Ruth Robinson
1916–1994
5. Catherine Hopper Robinson
1918–1918
6. Langdon Wall “Buster” Robinson
1919–1999

4. Harold Lyman “Larry” Wall
4th of 5 children of Langdon Wall & Clara Suela/Luella “Carrie” Nash
Born: Jun 26, 1893, Webster, Monroe Co., New York (birth dates vary)
Died: Oct 1, 1960 (age 63) Mobile, Mobile Co., Alabama (cause?)
Buried: Fairview Memorial Park, Albemarle, Stanly Co., North Carolina
Military: WWI (ran away to Canada and went by cattle boat to Europe to join the war)
Occupation: Radio advertising, insurance salesman, wholesale electric worker, tobacco salesman
Married (1): Oct 20, 1914, Evelyn Louise Carpenter, Henrico Co., Virginia
Annulled by the families
Divorced: Jun 26, 1919, Richmond, Virginia
No children

Married (2): Jun 21, 1923, Bessie Fern “Ressa” (Enlow) Poole, Richland Co., Ohio
Separated: abt 1934 (1st marriage James LeRoy Poole; 2nd Harold Lyman Wall; 3rd Carl Ellis Clark)
One child: Frederick H. Wall
1. Frederick H. Wall (last name of Clark in 1940 census, w/mother, Fern {Wall} Clark)
1926–1945 (d. age 19, WWII, Germany)
Buried under the name of  PFC Frederick L. Clark, Netherlands, mother, Fern E. Clark

Married (3): Oct 28, 1933, Florence Charlotte Nelson, Orlando, Orange Co., Florida
Divorced: 1936, Orange Co., Florida
No children

Married (4): Sep 8, 1934, Agnes Mary Ritchie, Chesterfield, Chesterfield Co., South Carolina
(was married before Frederick’s divorce from Florence was final)
Three children: Nancy Nash Wall, Kay Ritchie Wall, Perry Langdon Wall
1. Nancy Nash Wall
1936–2006
2. Kay Ritchie Wall
1938–2024
3. Perry Langdon Wall
1944–

5. Ralph Eastman Wall
5th of 5 children of Langdon Wall & Clara Suela/Luella “Carrie” Nash
Born: Mar 19, 1896, Rochester, Monroe Co., New York
Died: Mar 31, 1954 (age 58), Richmond, City of Richmond, Virginia; acute coronary occlusion
Buried: Apr 2, 1954, Hollywood Cemetery, Richmond, City of Richmond, Virginia; Section: 9 Lot: 143
Occupation: Order clerk for farm equipment company
Married: Sep 14, 1946, Clara Ginter Kelley, Richmond, Virginia
No children

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2. George Wall
2nd of 2 children of Lyman Wall & Eveline Langdon
Born: May 16, 1857, Monroe Co., New York
Died: Aug 2, 1932 (age 75), New York (cause?)
Buried: Webster Rural Cemetery, Webster, Monroe Co., New York; Section D, Row #18, Stone #5
Occupation: Watch & clock repairman, jeweler, store owner
Married: Jan 13, 1887, Ida May Burrow, Penfield, Monroe Co., New York
Four children: Hollis Burrow Wall, Osmond George Wall, Roger Smith Wall, Evelyn M. Wall

Ida May Burrow
Daughter of George Burrow & Melissa Ann Jiler
Born: Jan 31, 1860, New York
Died: Jul 25, 1947 (age 87), Brighton, Monroe Co., New York (cause?)
Buried: Webster Rural Cemetery, Webster, Monroe Co., New York; Section D, Row #18, Stone #6
Married: Jan 13, 1887, George Wall, Penfield, Monroe Co., New York
Four children: Hollis Burrow Wall, Osmond George Wall, Roger Smith Wall, Evelyn M. Wall

1. Hollis Burrow Wall
1st of 4 children of George Wall & Ida May Burrow
Born: Aug 22, 1888, Webster, Monroe Co., New York
Died: Oct 15, 1969 (age 81), Henrietta, Monroe Co., New York (cause?)
Cremated:
Occupation:
Married: Jun 27, 1914, Sarah Ferne Huston, Webster, Monroe Co., New York
One child: Lyman George Wall

2. Osmond George Wall
2nd of 4 children of George Wall & Ida May Burrow
Born: Oct 7, 1892, Webster, Monroe Co., New York
Died: Jan 1, 1986 (age), Belleville, Essex Co., New Jersey (cause?)
Buried:
Occupation: Board of Education for City Hall (Elmira, New York), high school instructor
Married: Jun 16, 1916, Mildred A. Peters, Webster, Monroe Co., New York
Two children: Winifred Mae Wall, Eveline Marie Wall

3. Roger Smith Wall
3rd of 4 children of George Wall & Ida May Burrow
Born: Apr 2, 1894, Webster, Monroe Co., New York
Died: Jun 2, 1990 (age 96) (cause?)
Buried: Webster Rural Cemetery, Webster, Monroe Co., New York; Section D, Row #18, Stone #4
Military: WWI, U.S. Army, Sergeant
Occupation: Farmer, storekeeper
Married: Jul 23, 1925, Mary Louise “Louisa” Barrett, Monroe Co., New York
No children

4. Evelyn M. Wall
4th of 4 children of George Wall & Ida May Burrow
Born: Sep 26, 1903, Webster, Monroe Co., New York
Died: Sep 10, 1999 (age 95), Wallkill, Ulster Co., New York (cause?)
Buried: Webster Rural Cemetery, Webster, Monroe Co., New York; Section D, Row #18, Stone #3
Education: 1923, attended the University of Rochester in Rochester, New York
Married (1): Sep 2, 1925, Lloyd Archibald Skinner, Monroe Co., New York
Two children: Roger Lloyd Skinner, Paul Langdon Skinner
Married (2): unkn Hillers


circa 1895: Langdon & Clara (Nash) Wall family:
standing: Raymond Nash “Ray” Wall, Sophia May “Sophie” Wall
seated: Langdon (father), Harold Lyman “Larry’ Wall, Edna Langdon Wall, Clara (mother)
Note: Ralph, the 5th and youngest child, has not yet been born:

Chauncey Nash & Sophia G. Arnold/Abigail Pomroy “Abbie/Abby” Eastman

Chauncey Nash
Son of Moses Nash, Jr. & Nabby Moore
Born: Feb 23, 1814, Tully, Onondaga Co., New York
Died: Aug 27, 1891 (age 77), Rochester, Monroe Co., New York (cause?)
Buried: Webster Rural Cemetery, Webster, Monroe Co., New York; DD R02 G20
Military: Civil War, Union Army, H 37 Iowa Infantry
Occupation: Lawyer, City Clerk, later engaged in agriculture
Married (1): 1843, Sophia G. Arnold, Ogden, Monroe Co., New York
Three children: William Arnold Nash, Louis Kossuth Nash, Anna Sophia “Phi” Arnold Nash
Married (2): Jul 2, 1857, Abigail Pomroy “Abbie/Abby” Eastman, Mt. Pleasant, Center Township, Henry Co., Iowa
Four children: Cora Belle Nash, Clara Suela/Luella Nash Wall, Stella Louisa Nash, Louis R Nash

Married (1): Sophia G. Arnold
Daughter of Enoch Arnold & Sally Brown
Born: May 14, 1818 (calculated from headstone) or 1822 (census record and Find A Grave), New York
Died: Apr 5, 1855 (age 32/33), Mount Pleasant, Henry Co., Iowa (died aged 36y 10m 22d) (cause?)
Buried: Mount Pleasant, Henry Co., Iowa; 9P row 17
Married: 1843, Chauncey Nash, Ogden, Monroe Co., New York
Three children: William E. Nash, Louis Kossuth Nash, Anna Sophia “Phi” Arnold Nash
1. William Arnold Nash (m. Hattie E. Kendrick?)
Oct 14, 1846–(Dec 17, 1922?, Ottowa Co., Ohio)
2. Louis Kossuth Nash
1849–1900
3. Anna Sophia “Phi” Arnold (Nash) Whipple
1853–1939

Married (2): Abigail Pomroy “Abbie/Abby” Eastman
2nd of 10 children of Benjamin Eastman & Fannie Breck Pease
Born: Mar 28, 1830, Northampton, Hampshire Co., Massachusetts
Died: Sep 1, 1920 (age 90), Dayton, Green Co., Ohio (cause?)
Buried: Webster Rural Cemetery, Webster, Monroe Co., New York; DD R02 G19
Married: Jul 2, 1857, Chauncey Nash, Mt. Pleasant, Center Township, Henry Co., Iowa
Three children: Cora Belle Nash, Clara Suela/Luella Nash, Stella Louisa Nash
1. Cora Belle (Nash) Rhoads
1858–1927
2. Clara Suela/Luella (Nash) Wall
1860–1909
3. Stella Louisa Nash
Jun 15, 1862–Sep 3, 1862

circa 1898: Family of Langdon Wall & Clara Suela/Luella “Carrie” Nash, in Webster, New York:
Edna, Sophie, mother Clara, Ralph (on lap), Harold (on the ground), Ray

Anna Sophia “Phi” Nash, William “Will” Nash, Chauncy Nash (father), Cora Belle Nash, Abbie Pomroy (Eastman) Nash (mother), Louis R. “Lew” Nash, Clara Suela/Luella Nash

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Webster Museum Biographies

George Wall
Webster’s first Historical Photographer began life on May 16, 1857, on a farm at the northeast corner of Wall and Holt Roads, and after his death on August 3, 1932, was buried in Webster Rural Cemetery at the intersection of Holt and Ridge Roads. Like many of his contemporaries, George stayed in Webster for much of his life.

George Wall’s father Lyman Wall (1828 -1904) was a teacher and a “scientific gardener” who originated 26 varieties of seed potatoes. During Prohibition, Lyman wrote and lectured about the issue and wrote agricultural articles for the Rural New Yorker. Lyman married Eveline Langdon (1827-1914) in September 1852. Both Lyman and Eveline were children of Webster pioneers. Lyman’s parents, Ebenezer and Hannah Wall, had a farm on Shoemaker Road and Eveline grew up in a little brick house on her family’s farm at 865 Klem Road. Lyman and Eveline’s son George was born in 1857, four years after his brother Langdon (1853-1937). In 1880, Langdon would become a charter member of the Webster Grange, Number 436.

Despite George’s agricultural upbringing, life on the farm was not for him. He did, however, carry on his father’s inventive tendencies. While still living with his family on Holt Road, he repaired clocks, watches, and violins. He even tried his hand at making violins. His whole life, he taught himself everything he needed to know. Well before he married, In 1881, George moved from his family home into the village to run a very successful jewelry and general repair shop in the former Hawley store on the southeast corner of South Avenue and East Main Street.

In 1887, George married Ida May Burrows (1860-1917) of Holt Road close to where George was born and buried. They had four children, Hollis (1888-1969), Osmond (1892-1986) Roger (1894-1990) and Evelyn (Skinner Hillers (1903-1999). Roger would carry on the family’s inventive character in his own way, pursuing woodworking and employment in a birdhouse factory.

When his jewelry and repair shop building was sold in 1906 to G. H. Witmer, George purchased the former Corning and Hawley home just south of his first shop. This is now, in 2020, the site of Willard Scott Funeral Home. He converted the front of the house into a jewelry store he called “The Little Shop Around the Corner,” eventually expanding his repair services to include bicycles. As a boy, George had frequently ridden the first high-wheeled bicycle in the town, similar to the Neuert bicycle at the Webster Museum. His shop was authorized as well to sell bicycles made in Buffalo.

As the times changed, so did George. He soon added Christmas, graduation, and wedding gifts as well as an optical business in his “Little Shop,” becoming Webster’s first optometrist/optician. No wonder historian Esther Dunn called him a “versatile merchant.”

An undated advertisement had this to say:
GEORGE WALL: WATCHMAKER, JEWELER, OPTICIAN, ETC.
Mr. Wall has been engaged in this business in Webster since 1881 and the fact that he has always been kept busy presupposes that his work has always been satisfactory. He is a practical watchmaker and is prepared to undertake everything in the line of watch and clock repairing, jewelry setting and repairing, in fact, everything connected with the watchmaker’s trade. He is also a practical optician and carries a full stock of optical goods, is prepared to test the eyes and fit them with proper lenses. His goods are fitted in gold, gold-filled, silver, or steel frames, and are warranted for ten years, which of itself is a sufficient guarantee of the genuineness of his work. His prices are extremely moderate and all work is, as before stated, made satisfactory, therefore his patrons need have no hesitation in placing their orders in his hands.

That interest in lenses and his inventive nature led to an interest in photography. His first small camera produced 3×5 photographs. He later bought a professional wooden camera that produced larger, glass-plate negatives. In an undated interview with museum staff, George’s son Roger recalled that the camera folded, sat on a tripod, and had a skirt-like sheet that went over his head. Sometimes he used flash powder, but usually, George made everyone sit still until there was a perfect pose. When taking pictures of his family, he would tie a string around his toe to activate the camera. Many of George’s photos of Webster and of his family can be found in the office of the Town Historian at the Webster Museum, many family photos but there were even more of Webster.

George Wall, like many of his contemporaries, made time to serve his community. He served on the Village Board, as President of the Board of Health, and as President of the Board of Education. Because George owned a large professional camera, was a talented self-taught photographer, processed his own high-quality work, and was involved in civic matters in the village, he was often called upon to take photos of groups, scenes, and events in town. He covered every kind of event, from Fourth of July celebrations to the Hojack Line derailment. He did no portrait work except for his family, but did take school pictures. Some of his photos were printed in postcard format and sold locally. His photographs appeared in The Webster Herald as well as in various celebratory publications including the 1980 Village of Webster’s Diamond Jubilee Celebration booklet. As a result of his willingness to document daily life, Webster has an exceptional photographic record of the area from 1890-1925.

It is frightening how close Webster came to losing this important record of its history.

When the Hawley store closed, George’s glass plate negatives were left in the basement, forgotten. The Hawley family gave the plates to Village Attorney Gerry Barrett who kept them safe until they could be printed through the cooperative efforts of Empire State Weeklies and the predecessor of the Webster Museum, the Webster Through The Years museum. His photographs are an important legacy for Webster.

George Wall was honored with the recognition of his contributions to Webster and his posthumous designation as Webster’s first Photographic Historian in May of 1983.

Thank you, George.
Source: https://wtty.webstermuseum.org/biographies/george-wall/

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2020, updated 2026, Catherine (Clemens) Sevenau.
Contributors: Terril Mills, Terri Saint Pierre, Kay Wall Hoffman, Bert Hoffman, Betsy A. Humphries

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  1. Bert Hoffman says

    March 23, 2026 at 12:15 pm

    I am a grandson of Harold Lyman Wall, who was a brother of Sophie Wall. I am going through some old photos and have found one of Langdon Wall with Charles Shaw III, circa 1935, and another photo of Langdon Wall with Sophie and Edna, and Edna’s husband and kids, circa 1919. I have scanned them and can email them to you if interested.

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    • Catherine Sevenau says

      March 23, 2026 at 6:02 pm

      I would LOVE to have the photos, thank you. I’ll add them to the post.
      Thank you so much. I sent you an email.

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